Nightmare on Hickory Street: An Inside View to a Horrific Double Murder

John Roberts February 27, 2013 at 12:02 pm

don't worry Jewel..this is usually Oldschools reply...its how he communicates...According tot he government he is to be on a list for not being able to communicate well with others....What list oldschool?...The one the government made up that goes along with might be a suspected terrorist....how did it say it?..."Poor communication skills"....so you call it paranoid and we'll call it a suspect..because were supposed to agree with government right oldschool? not be paranoid of it.....So according to the government we have OldSchool terrorist suspect...who should be shipped off to Guantonimo Bay...using the other LAW not parinoia....NDAA...indefinite detention of American citizens...

Marilynn Reinhardt February 27, 2013 at 03:41 pm

So many are clamoring for a "fast track" to the death chamber and reinstatement of the death penalty, but a recent survey of the most leading criminologists in the country found that the overwhelming majority did not believe that the death penalty is a proven deterrent to homicide. Eighty-eight percent of the country’s top criminologists do not believe the death penalty acts as a deterrent to homicide, according to a new study published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology. Similarly, 87% of the expert criminologists believe that abolition of the death penalty would not have any significant effect on murder rates. So all you "eye for an eye" people out there really have your facts wrong. You can't dispute the facts that these statistics have been derived from. So don't be too quick to jump on the bandwagon for burning these 4 at the stake so to speak. The idea of the death penalty hanging over a criminal doesn't stop or dissuade him at all. I would rather see demons such as these 4 sit behind bars for the rest of their miserable lives with their every-day freedoms taken away while they can't escape the mere thought of what brought them to their current situation.

Jen Yur February 27, 2013 at 03:56 pm

Amen Tony!

Angela Rankins February 27, 2013 at 11:47 pm

How about at the end of the day there is something seriously wrong with them and yes they should get the death penalty. Once again nobody on this earth gave a life to take one GOD gave everybody breathe so when you take one life you exchanging yours. The pain and suffering the family is going threw for nothing its stupid. So yes they should have been able to get the death penalty. I will just let go and let GOD. No matter how hard it is to still look at my bed and remembering my brother sitting on there and doing his cooking dance.RIP my lovely brother Terrance Rankins.

Under the Sun February 28, 2013 at 01:01 pm

Wow, Facts. Now that's something you hardly find in the comment section on this site.. Thanks Marilynn! If you, or anyone else is interested, I suggest reading Mark Mauer's book, Race to Incarcerate. A ton of great facts and stats on this issue.

I. J. February 28, 2013 at 01:10 pm

So it is better to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars to house these individuals for the rest of their life. I don't know where you get your stats but if you ask Joe Citizen, I'm sure he would rather see the death penalty than having to pay for prison..

Buford Pusser February 28, 2013 at 02:46 pm

Glasgow said the the Drew Peterson trial was the most rewarding in his career! Well guess what? He should get a bigger reward prosecuting these scum bags. Drew Peterson isn't anything in comparison to these murders.

Flora Dora February 28, 2013 at 06:55 pm

Thank you, Joe Hosey, for a well written report of this terrible crime. Using "parts" helped to keep it sequential. It will be a powerful trial to follow.

Hartz March 1, 2013 at 01:58 am

So when the details come out in court -from the witness' mouths (no different than their confessions); will it be ok for the "liberal media" to report it then?
You can report the news, but not that news... Or as long as it's "news" by our standards... Kind of sounds like a communistic approach.

Hartz March 1, 2013 at 02:01 am

So when the details come out in court -from the witness' mouths (no different than their confessions); will it be ok for the "liberal media" to report it then?
You can report the news, but not that news... Or as long as it's "news" by our standards... Kind of sounds like a communistic approach.

Hartz March 1, 2013 at 02:03 am

I don't believe landermans mom wants any type of connection to her son. It doesn't seem that they had the best relationship before, why would she want her name and face in the spotlight moreso now.
It's too bad that when the child finally makes a cry for moms attention, it's too late.

oldschool March 1, 2013 at 02:24 am

No Jr, that's how I communicate with someone who pulls out the same old paranoid crap in answer to every problem. How do you discern that I agree with the government based on my short response? What I dislike is the blanket statement "liberal media". Do you know what a red herring is? Based on your poor use of the language and grammatical correctness, maybe you should look it up. That is what the term "liberal media" is.

oldschool March 1, 2013 at 02:29 am

Good point, when people learned how people like Gacy lured victims they became more aware of their surroundings.

Zach March 1, 2013 at 03:13 am

This is a great piece of performance art or someone took a long sip of the stupid.

le March 2, 2013 at 06:59 am

Reporting, no its not, its called tainting the jury pool and only will ensure there will be many many more decades we will hear of and pay for this terrible crime and justice will not be served for a long time..the families will now be forced to relive this for many years... And that is a sad fact. O yeah make all the laws you want only law abiding people will follow them.. Illinois is the only state with.no conceal n carry law and the most laws banning guns yet we have highest murder rate and terrible crimes like this happen too frequently... We are all at fault for letting our country degrade to what it is today, we all need to help change it by being involved, not just when bad things happen!

pro streeter March 3, 2013 at 03:34 pm

Having gone through something similar to this almost 30 years ago, I can say this... It does not help the family to cope with their loss when everywhere you turn, your loved one's face is on the front page. It is the cause of nightmares, and makes you uncomfortable every place you go. The worst thing in the world is identifying a body, and then turning on the TV to see their face on the nightly news or on the front page of the paper! And then comes the trial, where they try to get the person who murdered your family in cold blood a "fair" trial. It hangs in the balance every minute, because one stupid mistake can mean a mistrial. Most of you will never know what it is like to sit in a courtroom, and watch the person who killed someone close to you for weeks as they try to lie their way out of what they did. Most of you will be lucky...Joe Hosey likes to glorify these pieces of garbage because he's never been the one who lost the loved one, and he has no conscience. Its all about his name in lights, thinking he's a star, thinking he is somebody. Reality, you're nobody!

Denise Williams March 3, 2013 at 04:11 pm

Am I the only one who noted "Joliet Police and prosecutors have kept a tight lid on what", and "Patch obtained the police reports"? This seems like a very clear statement that these reports were leaked by the defense. As was noted in a comment about the gag order being issued at the request of one of the defense attorneys, it seems to me this was an intentional leak aimed at an eventual bid for a change of venue. Actually, it is a pretty clever though typically slimey defense, attempting to manipulate and obfuscate the facts. No chance of getting the confessions thrown out, no question of guilt, so create a question of a tainted jury pool. After all, a defense attorney doesn't care about the truth, they only care about getting their client off. No wonder most thinking people believe defense attorneys belong in the seventh circle of hell, right next to their clients. This reporter has done what he is supposed to do, which is ferret out the facts. I really wonder at the concept that this 'glorifies' the crimes. Personally, I'm appalled and sickened by what these monsters said they did and I think it is a good reminder that there are those who walk amongst us that are capable of these atrocities. Maybe if we as a society stopped blaming the victims, stopped trying to blame anything other than the offenders for their actions in our attempts to understand how ostensible humans could do these things to another there wouldn't be the perception of 'glorification' of these crimes.

Jewelbug March 3, 2013 at 04:24 pm

I'm so sorry for your loss... I cannot know how deep that hote in your heart must be.
You wonder, as you sit in church and pray to God, how can such things happen? Why? Maybe giving us "free will" wasn't such a great idea after all... Again, so very sorry. :(

Jewelbug March 3, 2013 at 04:27 pm

Amen, Denise...

darla black lopez March 3, 2013 at 09:14 pm

I lite 2 candles at church today and prayed for justice and comfort for terrence and erics famlies.you all are in my daily prayers !

pro streeter March 3, 2013 at 09:24 pm

Thank you and please don't feel sorry for me, feel sorry for those 2 kid's parents. They are going through the worst times in there lives right now, and all I can say is, I feel for them. I always pray that no one else would have to go through what we did. The pain and emptiness never really go away! The memories and the bad dreams never go away either. The family will suffer untiil these people are long gone, and they just want justice. With a little luck, maybe bad reporting and leaking information won't spoil that for them. I think the State's Attorney should be investigating and seriously punishing those who are releasing this info. Joe, you'll get your 15 minutes of fame, hopefully this time it will include a summons...

VickiO March 4, 2013 at 11:06 am

The punishment should fit the crime. But sadly, I don't think we have a punishment available that would fit THIS crime. It's beyond horrible what happened here and it just goes to show the horrors that man is capable of. At least a gun wasn't used. I'm sick of hearing how bad "they" (the guns) are. It's not guns!! It's people. As sick and twisted as this story is, the media would have had more of a field day if a gun was involved.

Common Sense March 4, 2013 at 12:38 pm

Why is the press posting the nicest pictures that they could find of the victims? From everything that I have read they weren't so innocent acting. I'm surprised that they didn't post pictures of them when they were 12 years old, just like they did in the Treyvon Martin case in FL.

Renee herberg March 4, 2013 at 01:52 pm

Maybe because even if they did do something bad in their life im sure it wasnt something to get murdered over im sure you have done something bad in your life and no one has murdered you and sure if this was you your family wouldnt want your mug shot as something to remember you by

kenneth paul March 7, 2013 at 08:32 am

I wonder what these two victims did to reap losing their lives in this way; their bodies dishonered as even human beings after the fact. Lured to "kick it" with two women (caucasion) in an attempt to carry out this plan which wreaks a total disregard for a black man's life. Unfortunately this is going to play out in some way elsewhere and it's not going to be good for anybody.

Nick March 12, 2013 at 06:21 pm

What a disgusting comment. I am truly shocked- the young men were brutally murdered as Renne points out below, regardless of whether they "innocent acting" they lost their life in the most horrific fashion imaginable. The fact that you dwell on their photo and not the heinous crime committed is scary indeed.

Nick March 12, 2013 at 07:47 pm

Good point, although it is the guns as well, the fact that guns are so readily available in the U.S is without a shadow of a doubt linked to the fact that they get used in crime more than any where in the world - that's basic math. In the U.K barely anyone has guns - to put it simply, a gun makes it much easier to kill someone. This gruesome foursome are something else however, what is going wrong that these youths are so bereft of humanity?

Nick March 12, 2013 at 07:55 pm

I don't think people do these things because they know they wont be put to death, I doubt very much that thoughts for their future are at the forefront when they're commiting these acts. I'm sure these individuals might think differently about their actions after 20 years behind bars. Looking at the bigger picture, I don't think an eye for an eye is the answer, We proclaim to live in a civilsed society, who makes us judge, jury and executioner?

Jennifer April 15, 2013 at 03:37 pm

Guess what if their dead we don't have to feed them, educate them, give them medical care or pay for appeals. I vote death penalty. Old saying "If you play in the mud your going to get dirty" Guess what their dirty.

koko May 13, 2013 at 12:01 pm

People confuse informing the public (like a good newspaper is supposed to do) with glorifying...smh