I can't believe what I'm reading. It's beyond comprehension. What these four did was horrible, but for three to continue coexisting with two dead, mutilated bodies that they were responsible for causing is incredible.

Somehow not 1 bit of this surprises me. What does surprise me is how Herald news declined to mention any of this info, yet were very quick to point out the victims past crimes, which were irrelevant to the facts of this murder. Anybody else find that biased somehow? Maybe its coming to light now because people have been blowing up their phone lines once they did their own investigation. Knowledge truly is power...

To get the story straight - Phil went with Alisa to file a restraining order as Joshua Minor did these things to Alisa.

Two orders of protection against a convicted criminal and two denials by the judge. Any reasons for the denials Patch?

Here is one for the defective parts bin.

These are 4 sick individuals who deserve nothing more than a bullet between the eyes. Sick, messed up people...

Hopefully these people are going to fry! I don't want my tax dollars spent on supporting them to live, in a prison, on taxpayers dime for any period of time!

I agree Phil. They should fry indeed.

I agree. It was only a matter of time before miner took his criminal acts to the next level. He should have been locked up along time ago ..

Illinois does not have the death penalty unfortunately. So they will live

Does anyone know if a fund has been started for the victims families?

This is completely ridiculous. I was born and raised in Joliet.

These 4 people (animals) should suffer the same as their victims - DEATH! Not all practitioners of BONDAGE or D/s are sickos,demented or killers as are four are!

I have been practicing D/s and yes - Bondage for several years now, and would never even think about inflicting harm on a fellow human being! All the people i know - practice ONLY Safe, Sane and 100% Consensual in their "PLAY"!

Guess it is just another sign of the times where law abiding people get looked down on for enjoying the finer side of bedroom play! With everyone else (gay and lesbians) coming out of the closet - i thought I would be paramount to stand up for what i believe in - free speech, and our individual rights.

I dont know how these boys were killed but the 4 that killed them should be killed on the same manner. What kind of crap is that, that.two order of protection were denied, hello! Evil is staring them in the damn face!

We Miss you Eric and Terrance hope justice will be served and those 4 will never see fue day of light again May Rudy never come out of the cell for what they did to my friends.

Has anyone looked up info on juggalo or juggalette? All 4 of these sicko's were practicing the evil sidr of the Juggalo lifestyle. When articles and commens refer to these murderers as evil, that is exactly right. They are EVIL. One day they will burn in hell where it's too hot to wear there creepy clown face makeup. May God be with the Glover and Rankins families. Hugs to their Mommas.

I will ask again...how bout printing the names of the judges that denied the orders of protection?

THESE KIDS NEED HELP IN I.D.O.C 4SHOOO... DRUGS STARTED THE WHOLE THING... GUILTY OVER THERE... MR. VEGAS!

THE YOUNG MEN PAST SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP ONLY THESE DEVIL WORSHIPPING IDIOTS.DUDE DID ALL THAT AND NEVER GOT IN TROUBLE WOW.IF TGE 1 ONE BOY DIDN'T HAVE A SARGENT AS A PARENT N GOT EXPOSED NOTHING WOULD B HAPPENING THEY DONT WANT TO SHOW FAVORITISM BUT THEY REALLY DONT CARE ILLINOIS SYSTEM ALL JACKED UP

4:04 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Lala - what difference does it make who the judge was? If the complaining parties didn't show up in court, it means they didn't want to pursue the Order/Protection.

"In a petition for an order of protection Phillip Massaro filed on his daughter’s behalf, Alisa claimed Miner slammed her head against a wall and put his hand over her mouth, and that she filed a police report but Miner was not arrested. In a separate incident, Alisa claimed Miner slammed her on the ground, hit her face and squeezed it so hard that it left bruises.

The petition was dropped in July 2010 when no one appeared in court.

Apparently the two had patched things up."

IT DONT MATTER IF U SHOW UP OR NOT SOMETHING THIS EXTENT THE STATE USUALLY PICK UP THE CHARGES IF THE JUDGE PURSUE IT SO YES IT IS PART OF THE JUDGE JOB IF U NEVER BEEN IN DOMESTIC COURT THEN U DONT KNO THE FACTS

I agree with her they should print the judges name. And if I'm correct there is one particular judge that should not have that position. She is mean and makes you feel like the victim when you go in front of her.

The father did appear in court as his daughter was in the hospital. The judge denied it because SHE was not present.

Child of God: Do you mean to say the judge should have granted an Order of Protection in favor of a woman who wasn't there to pursue it? What do you mean the State picks up the charges? How can that be if there's no complaining witness?

He has been dating Alisa for a while so wouldn't that make him guilty of stuatuatory rape as well?

My comrades in the idoc penal system are waiting for their arrival.....then and only then will real justice be served..

I just wonder where the homeowner was at the time this was going on? For over a 24 hour period...Crazy! Also, he took his daughter to get an order of protection against Miner but he is allowed to be in his home? I think a lot of this may come down to poor, or lack of parenting. Just because the one kids Mom is a cop, doesn't mean she was a good/present mother. What is wrong with these kids??!! My heart breaks for these two young men and their families. It is tragic!

I am somewhat at a loose for words, and it pretty much sounds like Miner one sick SOB and people like him is why Illinois should have the death penalty.

2 seprate people begged to get order of protections against this monster ! They were denied them ! What kind of judge would deny order of prtections when victims are submitting evidence is unbelievable ! That judge should be repremended ! He should feel like a ass now !

Its a shame that the herald news feels the need to bring up victims past..it doesn't matter..they were murdered!!! The herald news does this to all victims and it really needs to stop..if a person didn't know them in life why pass judgment on them in death...

These people should b placed n population, then lets c how tough they r.

May peace be with the glover family and rankins family 2 fine. Yong men Lord hear our communty prayers that justice be served take these sinners as they took the life from terrance and eric GOD BLESS THESE FAMILYS IN THIS TIME OF SORROW. R.I.P TERRANCE AND ERIC

This is a sad day... This happened a block away from my house.. and the two boys i went to school with :'( very sad that those kids who i have seen around the streets have done this to them.... my prayers are with the family

After all that Miner has done in his life according to criminal records I'm surprised the judge even allowed him to become free. According to sources, Miner claimed to be "mentally ill" for conducting the burglary in 2010 yet the judge did not grant his wish. after being released in August 2012 he was sent to see multiple psychiatrists and psychologists to see if he was indeed mentally ill. Records also show he was prescribed multiple medications to help with the "depression", "anxiety", and "schizophrenia" he claimed to have. After being dropped when booked into Will/Grundy County, they found none of the prescription drugs in his system; they did not release whether alcohol or other street drugs were used (still no excuse!). If the punk knew he was nuts why didn't the judge believe him? If the judge never released him from prison to begin with maybe this would've never happened to these innocent men. I'm sure Miner was the one to commit the crime and dismember the bodies. Also from other sources, that haven't been confirmed, he possessed a digital camera that had multiple videos of him and Massaro having sexual intercourse multiple times between being released from prison in Aug 2012 till now; also including the evidence of them "sexually defacing" the victims bodies by having intercourse on the bodies.

Whether or not he was the ring leader as everybody assumes or not, they ALL need to be locked in a hole with no food or water and slowly have their bodies dismembered while they are alive. There is no reason why our tax dollars should pay these low-life's to live a somewhat decent life when they've done something so immoral. Also according to Ms. Ivon's testimony, she is also known by her middle name Dorian, she wasn't all there either. Both females who decided to have relations with Miner were stupid (especially Ivon for staying with him for 4 years). There have been multiple accounts of her accusing Miner that he beat her and mutilated her body, but according to her facbook page she too is into bondage, sexual fetishes with the dominatrix, and she too has a past criminal record. I find her testimony and petition useless same with Massaro's. The only way they could've stopped Miner was to call the cops immediately. Obviously Massaro had a restraining order against Miner and yet she still allowed him to be sexually involved with her. And if her father truly cared you would think he'd make sure Miner wouldn't be allowed in or near the home if he suspected harm on his daughter.

Where was Alisa's father at when all of this happen?

I'm sure somebody can find out who the judges are. It does matter.

BRING BACK THE ELECTRIC CHAIR!

I know I have done wrong with ppl with fake ids and yes I took responsibility for my actions I was dating Josh Miner for 4 1/2yrs the hellish nightmare I went thought he only would have sex with me with a plastic bag over my head and other times with choken me with a belt I wish I never dated him and he was haven sex with alissa when she was 11 yrs old he was always abusive and to the judge that didn't grant me the order of protection I curse that u now see you should have belived me!!!!! It could have been me and my daughter who is now 4yrs old

WoW! This story is just beyond unbelievable-serving jailtime for theft wasn't enough; maybe some people are just naturally born into the system & belong there for life? How does this happen-Where & How did Joshua Miner grow up-he must have grew up in a very sad home to say the least- Where was his Father- Where was his Mom growing up? Siblings-GrandParents-Anyone who cares about this child & these children to say the least? I know his mother was in the courtroom when the verdict was handed down GUILTY on the Robbery Charges-But yet where was she while he was becoming this individual-what was he & these others exposed to in life to become this-How does one human-being get to this point at such a YOUNG age. Bondage,Theft,Sex@Children the list seems to go on&on. Josuha Miner sadly is a product of the IDOC-Where I'm certain he will remain for his entire life, along with the 3others that have No self-respect nor do they have any respect for anyone at this point-This must have been how they were raised. Where are the parents for these children-How does one Parent allow these changes to happen to their Children Don't you see how your child is changing right before your eyes? Why did it get like this-How did this happen? Where do Parents go wrong in raising their children? They are someone's children. Now what about the other 3- Adam Landerman-19 Bethany McKee-18 & Alisa Massaro-18. What about the 2 young men whom are taken from their Families Never to Return to their Family...

Where were the parents of the girl whose house it was?

I don't know about the other 3, but this Josh Minor sounds like he didnt have a goodbackround. Pushing his grandmother down a flight of stairs? Having sex with Alisa when she was 11? WTF? What kind of parents does she have? I know one thing, If I was her mother, Josh Minor WouLD not be facing these charges, why? you ask? Because if he was molesting my 11 yr old daughter, I would have shot that POS right between the eyes. Alisa must have had some real PIGS for parents.

WTF is wrong with you people - most judgemental people. This woman was abused - and you perfect losers have nothing better to beat someone down who has already been abused. You take everything you hear as facts - you put people down as if you have never made mistakes. The only Pigs are the losers who can look down on their perfect perch and judge others.

Everyone is forgetting that the people we should be talking about are the 2 young men that lost their lifes. I didnt know them but it could have been our children. My heart goes out to family and friends of the victims.

I agree only god can judge.

Kitty/Dorian, your current boy has a key tattooed at the base of his penis and you have a lock tattooed on your mons venus, and you proudly display these as your cover images on Facebook? Well, I guess that's better than a swastika...

I dont know how to remove that crap he put it up cuz hes a bit insecure and btw only god can judge nobody has that right and my daughter is well taken care of and my love for her is all for her only!

I'm always going to be there for my daughter unlike the four monsters that are going to burn in HELL!!! God blessed me with an angel and my tattoos aren't on trial the murderers are I'm a tax payer just like every1 else is and what ever happened to humanity anyway this world is going to HELL!

THATS RIGHT DONT LET ANYONE TALK DOWN TO U. EVER!!!!!!!!!

Kitty - it seems as abuse runs very deep in your family, which is extremely sad. Have you received any healing from any of the counseling you have received? And what have you learned from couseling in order to protect your daughter from suffering abuse?

I sure hope these kids get rehabilitated. I'd hate to see their whole lives wasted. It'd be nice if they could join society again in a few years to contribute.

@yasmine yes rehab is something they woud difinitely need. On the other hand joining society in a couple of years should be out of the question. These kids should be locked away for a very long time.

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Anybody want to sign the online petition to make an exception to the Illinois Death Penalty?

Dear protecting the furture of my kids,I agree the death penalty should be brought back,I signed thank you. You can also start a petition at www.white house petition.com after 25,000 signed the obama reps. Bring it to the house for review. I truely belive in a live for a life. I hope with work and help you get the death penalty back approved,especially for murders........if you need help with the white house petition I would like to help. Sincerely darla

Sorry ment life for a life

Thanks I didn't even know about that white house petition. I'll look into it.

@ "Kitty"....are you the same girlfriend of Josh Minor that he filmed having sex with a child in a motel room?

I swear to God I should go in to politics. They first law I would push to have passed it that anyone found guilty without a doubt of sexually abusing a child be killed IMMEDIATELY. Having an actual video of you having sex with a child is proof beyond a doubt. Anyone who could participate in something so disgusting and hurt a child in that way is capable of absolutely ANYTHING....as so obviously evidencd by this disgusting crime since John minor filmed his gf having sex with a child. As far as I'm concerned, neither Josh Minor or his oh so classy girlfriend deserved to take even another breath after that video was discovered.

Had he and his gf just been put to death when this was discovered we wouldn't be discussing two more victims of this scummy, souless, piece of $hit, now would we?

This is the guy who beat me unconscious - unprovoked, last summer. No warning. Totally cold cocked me, leaving me with seven stitches, a permanent scar on my forehead, and $3,000 in medical bills. I'm glad they finally caught this piece of human excrement. The police couldn't find him, the people who live at the house where it happened wouldn't give him up, and they accuse me of breaking their windows. The cops were ALL OVER THAT. I had to go to court over it, the residents of the house it happened at continue to slander me. Sorry, I guess being beaten to the point where you lose half the blood in your body will impair your judgement. I hope he burns. What a waste of oxygen.