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Let's see obamas school records, financial statements, fast and furious files, etc.... Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Let's give the executive branch an enema.
Agreed Plato - this is just a pathetic attack by the left. A "Fast and furious" attemt to distract and divert from the real problems plaguing this country! And that is the true threat of Socialism. What is so wrong with Socialism? Everything.
Yes, he "earned it" legally.....however, it IS perfectly legal to put up $18,000,000 of your own and investor money, borrow an additional $305,000,000 to buy KB Toys using the assets of KB Toys to secure the loans, and NOT be personally liable for the $305,000,000 loaned money, using the income from KB Toys to pay back the loans, (tax deductable, of course,), recapitilize KB Toys to pay yourself and your investors a "special" dividend of $85,000,000, (pretty good return on $18,000,000 invested of your own money), and then bankrupting KB Toys. Keep in mind, "corporations are people my friend", a separate legal entity, so the nice profits get to kept free and clear, taxed at a flat 15% of course, minus any deductions and credits to offset any tax liabilities. Love to "earn" money like that!!
And Obama is running a very "transparent" administration. Let's see the visitors log AND then tell us what the meeting(s) was/were about. Oh yeah, this administration is up front with us, yeah right!!!
The real problem is both the democrats and republicans. The politicians vote for their political party first and the country second. Both parties are responsible for where this country is at today. Until this country wakes up and stops electing democrats and republicans, what you see is what you get.
"Odumba", as you call him, is a symptom - not the real problem. The disease is that we have discarded the benchmark. If there were a requirement to show Constitutional justification for what the current government does we would not be in this mess.
John, understand that the Right is as corrupt as the Left. That you hate the Left more than the State is a problem. Would you rather be a slave to a master who beats you on Mondays only or one who flogs you twice a week? Yes, I agree, Obama needs to leave the White House. But putting in Romney will not lead to economic recovery. It will continue the regular erosion of the Constitution that has been going on for decades. Romney has not stated that he has a deep seated commitment to returning the government back to the people, rather, he talks about increasing the federal role at every level.
Obama has already failed or violated the Consutution!! As Commander in Chief he's not enforcing or acting on illegal immigration or now he's violating the Constitution to keep Church and Government seperate by trying to tell Catholic orginizations they must put birth control/contraception in their health insurance! Two reasons for Odumba to go!
Obama is an Anti-Constitutionalist! He sees it as an obstruction to government...not a protector of the people's rights! He will allow Hillary to sign that UN treaty that will effectively repeal the second amendment and our right to bear arms! Unless Obama renounces the treaty or the Senate rejects the treaty (Reid will never bring it up for a vote), you will probably lose your rights to gun ownership...compliments of the UN and the Democrat Party!!!
The Sunday cartoons never cease to amaze me. So much for being funny...they all just seem to be trying to do more to prove their liberal media status. I really am surprised that Patch runs this kind of smarmy "comedy".
He could release three decades of tax returns. The polarization of the two party dictatorship is ruining this country. Quit voting for either party to send that message.
Dear Editor: I am new to OswegoPatch.com so I just want to get it straight from the start, and I must confess that I have NOT checked these facts but if only 50% are true… in an effort to be “Fair” do you post the following … Who is Obama?
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper – Not available
4. Harvard College records - Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available
8. Your Illinois State Senate records -- Not available
9. Law practice client list -- Not released
10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
12. Record of your baptism - Not available
13. Why your wife, Michelle, can no longer practice law as an attorney?
(Insurance Fraud?).
14. Why your wife has 22 assistants, when other First Ladies had one?
15. Why were you getting "foreign student aid" as a college student?
16. Which country's "passport" did you have when you visited Pakistan in 1981?
It's obvious that you didn't fact check, but why should it be a matter of public record what his grades were at Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard? W did not release his transcripts. They were, however leaked. Reagan said that if anyone knew how poorly he performed in school, he would have never been elected. By not releasing his transcripts, Obama is not setting any new precedent.
His Selective Service Registration has not been released by the Selective Service System because no one's is available to the public. If you asked me to produce my registration, I couldn't because it was destroyed in the wash several years ago. Seriously? Does anyone hold onto theirs after the age of 35?
Simply put, Obama's records as a senator are a matter of public record. Go look.
If you were the client of a lawyer, would you want your name released on a client list? Get real.
Obama's birth cert. and certificate of live birth have been released. Really? We're still debating this issue?
Record of baptism? I didn't realize that was a requirement. I guess I can't be president until someone certifies that I've purified myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka.
Michelle Obama voluntarily requested that her law license be placed on "inactive" status and was not "voluntarily surrendered." There is a difference.
Laura Bush had 24 staffers, Lady Bird and Betty Ford had 30, and Jackie Kennedy had 40. 22 doesn't seem out of line.
Durk:
Do you know who the founder of Snpoes.com is and his political leanings?
Because past Presidents did something wrong does not excuse the current Commander in Chief and automatically make it OK to do it again. When you are hired by a company/corporation you are required to show them your history, both academic and employment along with any arrest or criminal record you may or may not have. WHY DOES THE APPLICATION FOR THE MOST POWERFUL POSOTION IN THE FREE WORL NOT REQUIER THE SAME? And when you say “Simply put, Obama's records as a senator are a matter of public record“ If I Google his voting record as MY Senator the vast majority of his votes say “NV” I am not sure but does that mean No Vote? He did not vote on anything that put him or his reputation on the line!
FYI – A client list is a badge of honor! I give prospective clients of mine current client references all the time why shouldn’t he?
That 16 point list was dug out of the archives and yes some of it is old and worn out – say 50% of it – WHAT about the other 50% or just because past Presidents (R and D) have done it do we not want to know who it is behind the curtain?
Snopes' founders are Barbara & David Mikkelson, who have no known political affiliation or agenda. They debunk myths, urban legends, and provide facts over a myriad of subjects. Their scope reaches far beyond politics. Discover for yourself if it is sympathetic to the left, but I believe it to be non-biased.
I never suggested that past Presidents did anything wrong.
Politicians are not hired; they're elected. The requirements for President are in the Constitution. Perhaps the requirements are a bit thin, but it is the electorate that decides our office holders. You might not like the election process, but it's served us fairly well for over 200 years.
I guess I trust the integrity of fine institutions like Columbia and Harvard not to conspire to falsify Obama's qualifications. I trust that the bar licensing agency issued Obama an exam, which he passed. Passing the bar (not an easy task) enabled him to practice law. According to an L.A. Times article, he worked primarily as a writer and researcher for Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He did not try any cases and worked there for four years before entering politics. I also assume that the University of Chicago found legitimacy in his credentials, which is why they hired him.
As for his voting record, he missed 24% as a U.S. Senator (much higher than avg.) His avg. was stellar before choosing to run for President. As a state legislator, he often criticized for always voting "present," which he did so 3% of the time.
I'm trying this again-sorry if 2 posts.
In a perfect world, all those running for office would lay all their cards on the table up front. They would open their closet doors and throw out all the skeletons so something, however skewed, wasn't brought up. Well, it's not Eden and there's many things to be dealt with. Ask yourself some questions:
Who will create more jobs?
Who will encouage many of those on welfare to get jobs?
Who will have ALL of the peoples best interest at heart?
Who will do what it takes to turn things around?
Who do you want as a role model for your children?
That's just a few questions to ask yourself. BUT the number one question is Do you want 4 more years of this nonsense?
For the sake of what's left of Illinois and for our Country, The United States of America, do your civic and Patriotic duty and VOTE. If you don't, there will be no one to blame but yourself.
Cathy - if you think by voting for a republican it will eliminate the nonsense you are mistaken. The democrats and republicans are both responsible for the shape this country is in. The two party system is based on a system of bribery. The same lobbyists will be at both conventions paying off both parties so no matter who wins they will still get what they want. If you or I did that in the private sector, we'd be in jail. The hypocrisy is unbelievable in this country.
To Plainfield Independent...
I'll take my chances with the Republicans any day!!! This is the party that began by ending slavery in this country!!! They Started the NAACP!!! They believe in "Life" over "Choice!" They believe that all men regardless of Race, Color, or Creed can succeed in life and should be responsible people in a free society! They believe that Government is there to get obstructions out of our way so they may realize our God Given Rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness! I do NOT want to be a serf! I want to be a FREE MAN in a FREE COUNTRY! The less government there is, the better! Democrats fought for slavery and now keep millions of "slaves" on the "Financial Plantation" by keeping them poor and on the public dole! The Ku Klux Klan was a militant arm of the Democrat Party in the south! They believe that all men are not "CREATED" equal as they approve of abortion! When is a man "CREATED" if not at conception??? Republicans may have their own set of flaws, but Democrats can be downright evil!!!
@ Robert Greene - Both parties have their flaws and evils. Many people say they are going to vote for the lesser of two evils. If you do that, you're still voting evil. The downfall of this country today is the polarization of the two political parties. George Washington, John Adams, and Tom Jefferson warned the American people a long time ago that the downfall of the country would not come from anything external that it would be internal when political parties took over the government. It is clear today that these two political parties, they put their party ahead of the country. They vote for their party first and their country second.
Who will create more jobs? Ron Paul
Who will encouage many of those on welfare to get jobs? Ron Paul
Who will have ALL of the peoples best interest at heart? Ron Paul
Who will do what it takes to turn things around? Ron Paul
Who do you want as a role model for your children? Ron Paul
That's just a few questions to ask yourself. BUT the number one question is Do you want 4 more years of this nonsense? No, but I don't want 8 more years either (which is what we'll get if we install Romney)
To Plainfield Independent, In reply to your question, not once did I say who to endorse in my post. I find it interesting that by reading my post, you came up with that conclusion.
Cathy - the comic is poking at Mitt Romney and you stated "BUT the number one question is Do you want 4 more years of this nonsense?" Without further explanation your communication is left unanswered and open for interpretation. Not to hard to come up with the conclusion I did.
Does not matter anyways..has no one been paying attention...Obama and Mitt are going to take us into more wars..when they get done messing around trying tactics and they backfire..We the citizens will have more laws passed against us in the end...Know why Obama ordered Executive power over all resources...Because if there is a revolt he will shut them off..Romney wants to invade a countries himself....Wake Up America The money means nothing compared to what really going on....How many people here know that Obama is trying to give the U.N. say so over U.S. gun ownership...will only be allowed single shot guns if the U.N. says so....How many people here know the real reason the Revolution broke out against the British..It wasn't because of the tea like you were taught in schools...It was when the British came to confiscate the guns from people.....30,000 drones in our skies to keep an eye one us whos keeping any eye on them? and people are worried about these 2 scumbags money..their both going around America telling people how big of scumbags they both are..while standing up for the same things....Ron Paul 2012 ....
John...your mention of O's plan to limit guns is more timely than you might know. I have "heard" from sources that *could* know that the entire plan with the recent gun fiasco in Mexico was to create a situation in which the government could point to all the illegal traffic in guns in a further effort to ban them. Now, that plan sounds so silly that it is a bit hard to believe...but is it? Holder is stuck with trying to keep the "real plan" from going public. Time will tell...we will see just what is so important that they have to go to great efforts to hide it.
Don't let these facts get in the way of your truths. Colonists encroached and occupyied French and Native territory, casuing a war that ended with the Treaty of Paris of 1763. Boundries and conditions were disregarded and violated methodically and persistently by Protestant colonists who felt superior to natives and French settlers, leading to new wars, creating significant military cost to the government, a share of which was to be passed on the colonists. Colonists decided profits were more important than ethics and decency, violating every bill and act to recover these costs--these bills and acts were repealed to appease the colonists. However, colonial conservatives were enraged when parliament insisted eastern colonists cease violations of treaties and acts of aggression west of the Appalachians, and that Catholics were granted equal status in that territory (many canadian and native people were Catholic). It seems the predominantly conservative Protestant colonists intended to sieze the land as far as their power would extend, pushing out or destroying all natives and/or Catholics (despite the Crown insisting on honorable and civilized behavior). Boston Harbor was closed until the colonists paid for the tea they destroyed, and the colonists started stockpiling arms to reopen it. Lets see, religious elitist conservatives declaring only their Life free of accountabilty, the Liberty to do whatever they wish to whomever, all in Persuit of Profits--sound familiar?
Gun shop owners were interviewed and they themselves said they told the ATF that Mexicans were coming in and trying to buy a lot of guns..Tracing serial numbers to guns found on the scene is a joke...Stopping guns in the U.S. is not a joke..The NRA just addressed the U.N. and stated that any treaty attempted to be passed that has the citizen ownership to it will,be met with the NRA greatest force of opposition.
See SMS just like that.Yes that man who is the only man running that went and did his military service and now has had more money donated to him by the lowest paid members of our government or troops.Yes that man who is the only politician who warned us of the recession and people laughed..wasn't so funny was it?....Yes that man that believes that your right to bare arms is one of the fundamental reasons we even have a government and should never have it infringed upon for the sake of individual and national security..What other politician that was running said that?..none. yes that man who is telling you why your paying a bank that prints money and loans it to America with an interest rate...Yes the man that pointed out that Iceland threw out our banking Rothschild system..They found it to be fraudulent and forgave all debit.house payments,student loans,,Did you hear about that in the controlled media? Yes that man...The one telling you where your money is going.trillions spen over seas millions spent here..The one telling you none of these are considered wars which leaves veterans cut out of pay and benefits related to war..Congress did not declare war...
Lol the muffin man....you sound like the sheepole people in the system...like old Robert Watson used to be lawmaker from Rhode Island who stood in the House stated...."If your a gay Guatemalan who likes drinking,gambling & smoking pot then you would think legalizing marijuana is a good idea" 2 weeks later he was pulled over and arrested for possession of Marijuana,Drinking while driving and when they took him to the hospital...yeah he had cocaine in his system....the name labeling takes from serious points..like one candidate saying the other has cooties...
Yeah, I responded to Rich Karner (above) about the Liberal Kennedy's making money from bootlegging during prohibition and "pending approval" was initiated and the post never showed up. Not sure this one will either John Roberts.
I love my country, my family and all Americans Red, Blue and in between. I will no longer allow myself to be a part of the current hate bashing of my fellow Americans just because we disagree on politics. One day we will wake up and realize that we were conditioned by the political system to except only one way of thinking. It is time to get back to the norm and just respect each other. In the end, its compromise or demise.
Thanks Marooned..Good Read..if the bow and arrow was the most effective weapon there was and no guns the government would not want us to have them...Governments against governments we the citizens should have more control over.when military and government are placed against each other the problem is it is not base vs base.It is military running around in our neighborhoods shooting at each other...This is one of the main reasons I stand for the right to bare arms...What we allow our government to do to us is on us...Obama & Romney will take us Americans into more wars while trying to unarm the citizens
Romney's father, George Romney ran for President in 1968. He voluntarily released 12 years of his tax records thereby creating a precedent that other candidates have matched. Why can't Mitt do the same as his father did?
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Plato
7:21 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012
Let's see obamas school records, financial statements, fast and furious files, etc.... Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Let's give the executive branch an enema.
Christine
9:54 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012
I care more about what Obama wants to do with my money than about what Romney does with his own money.
marcy
1:47 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
This is Baloney....Where are the Obama comics...(*^&(*&(*&)^$^%#%$#
JPits
9:54 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012
Agreed Plato - this is just a pathetic attack by the left. A "Fast and furious" attemt to distract and divert from the real problems plaguing this country! And that is the true threat of Socialism. What is so wrong with Socialism? Everything.
John Moreli
9:33 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012
So what were the money is at ,he earned it. No one else is told were to put their money and neither should he.
Dinkamoe
10:33 am on Monday, July 16, 2012
Yes, he "earned it" legally.....however, it IS perfectly legal to put up $18,000,000 of your own and investor money, borrow an additional $305,000,000 to buy KB Toys using the assets of KB Toys to secure the loans, and NOT be personally liable for the $305,000,000 loaned money, using the income from KB Toys to pay back the loans, (tax deductable, of course,), recapitilize KB Toys to pay yourself and your investors a "special" dividend of $85,000,000, (pretty good return on $18,000,000 invested of your own money), and then bankrupting KB Toys. Keep in mind, "corporations are people my friend", a separate legal entity, so the nice profits get to kept free and clear, taxed at a flat 15% of course, minus any deductions and credits to offset any tax liabilities. Love to "earn" money like that!!
What a Deal!
12:38 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
How did the Kennedy's make their money???????????? Legal? Yet the left holds them up on a pedestal.....
What a Deal!
12:38 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
just in case you don't know....bootlegging during prohibition......Federal and felonious.
Dinkamoe
2:42 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
You misunderstand....I am in awe of how Mitt Romney was/is able to work the system to his advantage!
Frank O
9:54 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012
And Obama is running a very "transparent" administration. Let's see the visitors log AND then tell us what the meeting(s) was/were about. Oh yeah, this administration is up front with us, yeah right!!!
John Moreli
10:20 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012
The Patch has nothing better to do than divert attention away from the real problem "Odumba"
Plainfield Ind
1:13 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
The real problem is both the democrats and republicans. The politicians vote for their political party first and the country second. Both parties are responsible for where this country is at today. Until this country wakes up and stops electing democrats and republicans, what you see is what you get.
Clay Hamm
1:55 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
"Odumba", as you call him, is a symptom - not the real problem. The disease is that we have discarded the benchmark. If there were a requirement to show Constitutional justification for what the current government does we would not be in this mess.
John Moreli
10:29 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012
Wake up America is time for Obamba to exit the White House !!
Clay Hamm
1:43 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
John, understand that the Right is as corrupt as the Left. That you hate the Left more than the State is a problem. Would you rather be a slave to a master who beats you on Mondays only or one who flogs you twice a week? Yes, I agree, Obama needs to leave the White House. But putting in Romney will not lead to economic recovery. It will continue the regular erosion of the Constitution that has been going on for decades. Romney has not stated that he has a deep seated commitment to returning the government back to the people, rather, he talks about increasing the federal role at every level.
John Moreli
1:59 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
Obama has already failed or violated the Consutution!! As Commander in Chief he's not enforcing or acting on illegal immigration or now he's violating the Constitution to keep Church and Government seperate by trying to tell Catholic orginizations they must put birth control/contraception in their health insurance! Two reasons for Odumba to go!
Logansdad
10:33 am on Monday, July 16, 2012
"As Commander in Chief he's not enforcing or acting on illegal immigration"
Obama has deported more illegals than Bush did so how can you say he is not enforcing illegal immigration.
Robert Green
11:33 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Obama is an Anti-Constitutionalist! He sees it as an obstruction to government...not a protector of the people's rights! He will allow Hillary to sign that UN treaty that will effectively repeal the second amendment and our right to bear arms! Unless Obama renounces the treaty or the Senate rejects the treaty (Reid will never bring it up for a vote), you will probably lose your rights to gun ownership...compliments of the UN and the Democrat Party!!!
Ron Gleffe
1:13 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
The Patch should stay out of politics and focus on community affairs. Enough liberal media already.
Donna KPG
1:13 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
The Sunday cartoons never cease to amaze me. So much for being funny...they all just seem to be trying to do more to prove their liberal media status. I really am surprised that Patch runs this kind of smarmy "comedy".
anthony
1:13 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
The Romulans have left the buildings....
Milo
1:13 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
All of this will be cleared up when Gov. Romney releases his last 10 years of tax records. The Nobama admnistration will look like fools !
Plainfield Ind
4:56 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012
He could release three decades of tax returns. The polarization of the two party dictatorship is ruining this country. Quit voting for either party to send that message.
SMS
1:13 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
Dear Editor: I am new to OswegoPatch.com so I just want to get it straight from the start, and I must confess that I have NOT checked these facts but if only 50% are true… in an effort to be “Fair” do you post the following … Who is Obama?
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper – Not available
4. Harvard College records - Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available
8. Your Illinois State Senate records -- Not available
9. Law practice client list -- Not released
10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
12. Record of your baptism - Not available
13. Why your wife, Michelle, can no longer practice law as an attorney?
(Insurance Fraud?).
14. Why your wife has 22 assistants, when other First Ladies had one?
15. Why were you getting "foreign student aid" as a college student?
16. Which country's "passport" did you have when you visited Pakistan in 1981?
Durk E. Brownlee
10:33 am on Monday, July 16, 2012
It's obvious that you didn't fact check, but why should it be a matter of public record what his grades were at Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard? W did not release his transcripts. They were, however leaked. Reagan said that if anyone knew how poorly he performed in school, he would have never been elected. By not releasing his transcripts, Obama is not setting any new precedent.
His Selective Service Registration has not been released by the Selective Service System because no one's is available to the public. If you asked me to produce my registration, I couldn't because it was destroyed in the wash several years ago. Seriously? Does anyone hold onto theirs after the age of 35?
Simply put, Obama's records as a senator are a matter of public record. Go look.
If you were the client of a lawyer, would you want your name released on a client list? Get real.
Obama's birth cert. and certificate of live birth have been released. Really? We're still debating this issue?
Record of baptism? I didn't realize that was a requirement. I guess I can't be president until someone certifies that I've purified myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka.
Michelle Obama voluntarily requested that her law license be placed on "inactive" status and was not "voluntarily surrendered." There is a difference.
Laura Bush had 24 staffers, Lady Bird and Betty Ford had 30, and Jackie Kennedy had 40. 22 doesn't seem out of line.
Go see Snopes.com. Research it!
SMS
4:58 pm on Monday, July 16, 2012
Durk:
Do you know who the founder of Snpoes.com is and his political leanings?
Because past Presidents did something wrong does not excuse the current Commander in Chief and automatically make it OK to do it again. When you are hired by a company/corporation you are required to show them your history, both academic and employment along with any arrest or criminal record you may or may not have. WHY DOES THE APPLICATION FOR THE MOST POWERFUL POSOTION IN THE FREE WORL NOT REQUIER THE SAME? And when you say “Simply put, Obama's records as a senator are a matter of public record“ If I Google his voting record as MY Senator the vast majority of his votes say “NV” I am not sure but does that mean No Vote? He did not vote on anything that put him or his reputation on the line!
FYI – A client list is a badge of honor! I give prospective clients of mine current client references all the time why shouldn’t he?
That 16 point list was dug out of the archives and yes some of it is old and worn out – say 50% of it – WHAT about the other 50% or just because past Presidents (R and D) have done it do we not want to know who it is behind the curtain?
Durk E. Brownlee
12:38 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
Snopes' founders are Barbara & David Mikkelson, who have no known political affiliation or agenda. They debunk myths, urban legends, and provide facts over a myriad of subjects. Their scope reaches far beyond politics. Discover for yourself if it is sympathetic to the left, but I believe it to be non-biased.
I never suggested that past Presidents did anything wrong.
Politicians are not hired; they're elected. The requirements for President are in the Constitution. Perhaps the requirements are a bit thin, but it is the electorate that decides our office holders. You might not like the election process, but it's served us fairly well for over 200 years.
I guess I trust the integrity of fine institutions like Columbia and Harvard not to conspire to falsify Obama's qualifications. I trust that the bar licensing agency issued Obama an exam, which he passed. Passing the bar (not an easy task) enabled him to practice law. According to an L.A. Times article, he worked primarily as a writer and researcher for Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He did not try any cases and worked there for four years before entering politics. I also assume that the University of Chicago found legitimacy in his credentials, which is why they hired him.
As for his voting record, he missed 24% as a U.S. Senator (much higher than avg.) His avg. was stellar before choosing to run for President. As a state legislator, he often criticized for always voting "present," which he did so 3% of the time.
Cathy Anne
1:13 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
I'm trying this again-sorry if 2 posts.
In a perfect world, all those running for office would lay all their cards on the table up front. They would open their closet doors and throw out all the skeletons so something, however skewed, wasn't brought up. Well, it's not Eden and there's many things to be dealt with. Ask yourself some questions:
Who will create more jobs?
Who will encouage many of those on welfare to get jobs?
Who will have ALL of the peoples best interest at heart?
Who will do what it takes to turn things around?
Who do you want as a role model for your children?
That's just a few questions to ask yourself. BUT the number one question is Do you want 4 more years of this nonsense?
For the sake of what's left of Illinois and for our Country, The United States of America, do your civic and Patriotic duty and VOTE. If you don't, there will be no one to blame but yourself.
Plainfield Ind
1:37 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
Cathy - if you think by voting for a republican it will eliminate the nonsense you are mistaken. The democrats and republicans are both responsible for the shape this country is in. The two party system is based on a system of bribery. The same lobbyists will be at both conventions paying off both parties so no matter who wins they will still get what they want. If you or I did that in the private sector, we'd be in jail. The hypocrisy is unbelievable in this country.
Robert Green
11:33 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
To Plainfield Independent...
I'll take my chances with the Republicans any day!!! This is the party that began by ending slavery in this country!!! They Started the NAACP!!! They believe in "Life" over "Choice!" They believe that all men regardless of Race, Color, or Creed can succeed in life and should be responsible people in a free society! They believe that Government is there to get obstructions out of our way so they may realize our God Given Rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness! I do NOT want to be a serf! I want to be a FREE MAN in a FREE COUNTRY! The less government there is, the better! Democrats fought for slavery and now keep millions of "slaves" on the "Financial Plantation" by keeping them poor and on the public dole! The Ku Klux Klan was a militant arm of the Democrat Party in the south! They believe that all men are not "CREATED" equal as they approve of abortion! When is a man "CREATED" if not at conception??? Republicans may have their own set of flaws, but Democrats can be downright evil!!!
Plainfield Ind
4:56 am on Thursday, July 19, 2012
@ Robert Greene - Both parties have their flaws and evils. Many people say they are going to vote for the lesser of two evils. If you do that, you're still voting evil. The downfall of this country today is the polarization of the two political parties. George Washington, John Adams, and Tom Jefferson warned the American people a long time ago that the downfall of the country would not come from anything external that it would be internal when political parties took over the government. It is clear today that these two political parties, they put their party ahead of the country. They vote for their party first and their country second.
Clay Hamm
1:55 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
Who will create more jobs? Ron Paul
Who will encouage many of those on welfare to get jobs? Ron Paul
Who will have ALL of the peoples best interest at heart? Ron Paul
Who will do what it takes to turn things around? Ron Paul
Who do you want as a role model for your children? Ron Paul
That's just a few questions to ask yourself. BUT the number one question is Do you want 4 more years of this nonsense? No, but I don't want 8 more years either (which is what we'll get if we install Romney)
Cathy Anne
2:05 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
To Plainfield Independent, In reply to your question, not once did I say who to endorse in my post. I find it interesting that by reading my post, you came up with that conclusion.
Plainfield Ind
2:33 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
Cathy - the comic is poking at Mitt Romney and you stated "BUT the number one question is Do you want 4 more years of this nonsense?" Without further explanation your communication is left unanswered and open for interpretation. Not to hard to come up with the conclusion I did.
JPauly
10:33 am on Monday, July 16, 2012
@ the comic: Word...
John Roberts
10:34 am on Monday, July 16, 2012
Does not matter anyways..has no one been paying attention...Obama and Mitt are going to take us into more wars..when they get done messing around trying tactics and they backfire..We the citizens will have more laws passed against us in the end...Know why Obama ordered Executive power over all resources...Because if there is a revolt he will shut them off..Romney wants to invade a countries himself....Wake Up America The money means nothing compared to what really going on....How many people here know that Obama is trying to give the U.N. say so over U.S. gun ownership...will only be allowed single shot guns if the U.N. says so....How many people here know the real reason the Revolution broke out against the British..It wasn't because of the tea like you were taught in schools...It was when the British came to confiscate the guns from people.....30,000 drones in our skies to keep an eye one us whos keeping any eye on them? and people are worried about these 2 scumbags money..their both going around America telling people how big of scumbags they both are..while standing up for the same things....Ron Paul 2012 ....
SMS
4:58 pm on Monday, July 16, 2012
Ron Paul... Really?... The Muffin Man? ;o)
Edward Andrysiak
4:58 pm on Monday, July 16, 2012
John...your mention of O's plan to limit guns is more timely than you might know. I have "heard" from sources that *could* know that the entire plan with the recent gun fiasco in Mexico was to create a situation in which the government could point to all the illegal traffic in guns in a further effort to ban them. Now, that plan sounds so silly that it is a bit hard to believe...but is it? Holder is stuck with trying to keep the "real plan" from going public. Time will tell...we will see just what is so important that they have to go to great efforts to hide it.
Marooned
7:18 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Don't let these facts get in the way of your truths. Colonists encroached and occupyied French and Native territory, casuing a war that ended with the Treaty of Paris of 1763. Boundries and conditions were disregarded and violated methodically and persistently by Protestant colonists who felt superior to natives and French settlers, leading to new wars, creating significant military cost to the government, a share of which was to be passed on the colonists. Colonists decided profits were more important than ethics and decency, violating every bill and act to recover these costs--these bills and acts were repealed to appease the colonists. However, colonial conservatives were enraged when parliament insisted eastern colonists cease violations of treaties and acts of aggression west of the Appalachians, and that Catholics were granted equal status in that territory (many canadian and native people were Catholic). It seems the predominantly conservative Protestant colonists intended to sieze the land as far as their power would extend, pushing out or destroying all natives and/or Catholics (despite the Crown insisting on honorable and civilized behavior). Boston Harbor was closed until the colonists paid for the tea they destroyed, and the colonists started stockpiling arms to reopen it. Lets see, religious elitist conservatives declaring only their Life free of accountabilty, the Liberty to do whatever they wish to whomever, all in Persuit of Profits--sound familiar?
John Roberts
9:33 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Gun shop owners were interviewed and they themselves said they told the ATF that Mexicans were coming in and trying to buy a lot of guns..Tracing serial numbers to guns found on the scene is a joke...Stopping guns in the U.S. is not a joke..The NRA just addressed the U.N. and stated that any treaty attempted to be passed that has the citizen ownership to it will,be met with the NRA greatest force of opposition.
John Roberts
9:33 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
See SMS just like that.Yes that man who is the only man running that went and did his military service and now has had more money donated to him by the lowest paid members of our government or troops.Yes that man who is the only politician who warned us of the recession and people laughed..wasn't so funny was it?....Yes that man that believes that your right to bare arms is one of the fundamental reasons we even have a government and should never have it infringed upon for the sake of individual and national security..What other politician that was running said that?..none. yes that man who is telling you why your paying a bank that prints money and loans it to America with an interest rate...Yes the man that pointed out that Iceland threw out our banking Rothschild system..They found it to be fraudulent and forgave all debit.house payments,student loans,,Did you hear about that in the controlled media? Yes that man...The one telling you where your money is going.trillions spen over seas millions spent here..The one telling you none of these are considered wars which leaves veterans cut out of pay and benefits related to war..Congress did not declare war...
John Roberts
9:33 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Lol the muffin man....you sound like the sheepole people in the system...like old Robert Watson used to be lawmaker from Rhode Island who stood in the House stated...."If your a gay Guatemalan who likes drinking,gambling & smoking pot then you would think legalizing marijuana is a good idea" 2 weeks later he was pulled over and arrested for possession of Marijuana,Drinking while driving and when they took him to the hospital...yeah he had cocaine in his system....the name labeling takes from serious points..like one candidate saying the other has cooties...
John Roberts
10:33 am on Monday, July 16, 2012
Pending approval? Lol now were being censored...Thanks but no thanks..see ya later patch probably because I mentioned RP...2012
What a Deal!
12:38 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
Yeah, I responded to Rich Karner (above) about the Liberal Kennedy's making money from bootlegging during prohibition and "pending approval" was initiated and the post never showed up. Not sure this one will either John Roberts.
mecando
12:38 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
I love my country, my family and all Americans Red, Blue and in between. I will no longer allow myself to be a part of the current hate bashing of my fellow Americans just because we disagree on politics. One day we will wake up and realize that we were conditioned by the political system to except only one way of thinking. It is time to get back to the norm and just respect each other. In the end, its compromise or demise.
John Roberts
9:33 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Got that right
John Roberts
10:26 am on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Thanks Marooned..Good Read..if the bow and arrow was the most effective weapon there was and no guns the government would not want us to have them...Governments against governments we the citizens should have more control over.when military and government are placed against each other the problem is it is not base vs base.It is military running around in our neighborhoods shooting at each other...This is one of the main reasons I stand for the right to bare arms...What we allow our government to do to us is on us...Obama & Romney will take us Americans into more wars while trying to unarm the citizens
Olddeegee
1:47 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Romney's father, George Romney ran for President in 1968. He voluntarily released 12 years of his tax records thereby creating a precedent that other candidates have matched. Why can't Mitt do the same as his father did?